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Thanks to the Royals for that one

I was listening to KFAN radio earlier, and Chad Hartman was on with one of his cronies. They were discussing Santana and Liriano. They both agreed that Liriano is the better starter this season. I disagree to an extent, and wanted to touch on that. In Santana‘s 4 losses this season, the Twins have scored 0 runs, 1 run, 2 runs, and 3 runs. I’m not saying Liriano isn’t a good starter, but just wanted to point out that Santana‘s losses came early in the season when they weren’t on this 20-2 tear.

Excuse me, make that 21-2 tear. It was a squeaker, something I certainly am not used to, but they pulled it out to get a 6-5 series-opener win. It was 3-1 heading into the 6th inning, when Santana got the bases loaded, hit a batter to make it 3-2, and gave up a bases-clearing double to former ROY Angel Berroa.

Have no fear, Ambiorix Burgos is here. Coming into the game with two outs, and runners on first and second, and Torii Hunter at the plate, he decides to get wild and allows Cuddyer and Morneau to advance a base each on his first wild pitch of the inning. Cuddyer didn’t get there surely though, as the catcher threw the ball down the third baseline, but wildly like his pitcher had done. This allowed Mike to run home, while Morneau advanced to third. The wild Burgos then hits Torii Hunter in the elbow and then walked Shannon Stewart to load the bases. Notice I said first wild pitch of the inning, because apparently he wasn’t done. With a split finger in his glove, he hurled it 2 feet in front of the plate to allow Justin “Big Boy” Morneau (FSN player of the game, 3-for-4 with a 2-run HR and 3 RBIs) to score the winning run.

Joe “Daddy” Nathan came in, struck out two gawking Royals, allowed a rare walk, and then got another Royal to watch the amazing 96 mile-per-hour fastball go by him.

Just like that, the Twins go from looking like Santana will get the loss, to winning on 2 wild pitches, a walk, and a hit batter. Hurray for bad pitching!



  ryfryfan wrote @

Hey, just wondering about your opening line. Chad Hartman is one of the anchors over at KFAN. It must have been his father Sid, who has been a mainstay at WCCO for years, you were listening to. Tough outing for Sananta tonight. He just wasn’t his usual self. I’m glad the bats could win this game for the boys. I have to admit, however, the K.C. Royals did appear a bit hapless in the later innings. Perhaps you’re right, perhaps the Royals did hand this one over on the proverbial “silver platter.”

  Dan wrote @

Liriano all around > Santana

They are prolly about even this year but Liriano is only 22 years old. You and I along with everyone else also knows if the Twins could only keep one they would pick Liriano easily.

Wins – Tie
ERA – Liriano
K/9 – Liriano
WHIP – Liriano
Age – Liriano

How does Santana win exactly?

  Robbie wrote @

Cy Young Awards- Santana

I think that Liriano has the potential to be the greatest pitcher of this decade, and that says alot, but as with alot of young pitchers you have to question thier durability until it is proven that can withstand the rigours of a full MLB season.

I don’t think we can give a straight answer until we have seen Liriano pitch 400 big league innings with great success. I would like you to look back and see Oliver Perez’s 2004 season. It can be seen here http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6945
Now after looking at that line you would think he was the next best thing. Unfortunately he has not been.

Now I pray this doesn’t happen to Liriano. I just want to point out you can’t put stock in a pitcher with less than 15 ML starts.

  frymaster wrote @

While Perez had a good ERA, lots of strikeouts, and a small BAA, his record was still 12-10. Liriano’s is a lot better, with a better ERA and a better BAA. But I see what you’re saying.

  Robbie wrote @

Record is meaningless when you play on a craptastic team, IMO. If you are losing 2-1’s that is not a great guide on how you are pitching just looking at stats.

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